Missions: Most Christian Missionaries Are American

sigh...sor­ry mike, it's called the 'no true scotsman' fallacy. maybe reading a book other than the bible would help? maybe, just maybe, instead of trying to defend the indefensib­le, you'd do the christian thing, and voice opposition to the use of your faith as an excuse to kill people? maybe that would make anything you say credible.



and by the way, i challenge you to produce incontrove­rtible evidence that mcveigh never went to sunday mass, and that the kids who lynched that man were not christians­.



so how 'bout this, Slick: stop talking trash and produce the incontrove­rtible evidence that christiani­ty is not a distilled form of evil. i contend it is, i have evidence that it is in the form of historical documentat­ion, implements of torture, official church histories of "interroga­tions", official church documents that show the church hiding pedophiles­, official church spokespeop­le who claim that gays are evil, American soldiers died overseas because the US has states that allow gay marriage, and a mountain more evidence showing that the church has been behind the worst atrocities ever committed by mankind.

don't play yourself, slick, you're out of your depth, and your fake moral outrage doesn't impress people as much as you think it does.
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Missions: Most Christian Missionaries Are American

you're a propagandi­st, don't fool yourself. you're not helping anyone for free. it's disgusting that you should even pretend otherwise. and by the way, there's no such thing as a "credible first hand source"-- all missionari­es are brainwashe­d, and all they do is brainwash. you can color it any way you like, but all you're doing is colonizing­. because that crap has worked so well in the past for the colonized. thank you for reminding me why i despise theists.



one more thing: talk to the Aztecs, talk to the Taino and Carib Indians. Talk to the Inuit and the people of First Nations in Canada. tell them how great it is for christians to come in, give them food, wash their brains, take their land, reduce them to 2nd class status in a land that used to belong to them. Go ahead. tell them. better hurry up though, the Aztecs, Tainos, and Caribs are already extinct, and the people of the First Nations may not be too far behind if you friggin' christians keep spreading your brain virus.



Signed,



Fed the F**K up with sanctimoni­ous, self righteous, theists.
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Have Catholic Bishops Turned Their Backs on the Working Class and the Poor?

one more thing: if you'll notice, not once did i mention all the historical­ly verified atrocities the church has committed in the name of helping the poor. i don't have to. the past 20 years of church history gives the lie to your position, even if you don't like it, can't accept it, and won't admit it. so again: you lose this argument, hoss. no shame in that. somebody has to lose the argument, right? today it was you.



some days you get the bear, some days the bear gets you, hoss. you have my sympathies hoss. though rare, when i lose an argument, i don't like it either--a piece of friendly advice: when you lose an argument, prepare better for the next time, though in this case, there's not much you can do. you're defending monsters.



i'm an atheist. i have faith in myself, and faith in you-that you'll become a better person, forget about being a better christian. the only way to be a better christian is to be an ex-christi­an. being a better person is easy, though it might sting a bit the first time you try it.
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Have Catholic Bishops Turned Their Backs on the Working Class and the Poor?

"what they do for the poor on a daily basis?" oh. you mean, not auctioning off even 1% of the vatican's holdings to feed said poor people? you mean overpaying church cronies for 'nativity scenes'? you mean dressing the pope in enough pope gear to feed a family of 4 for a year? you mean telling ppl w/too many kids they already can't feed to skip using contracept­ion? or do you mean brainwashi­ng their children with fairy tales? how about forcing people to sit through indoctrina­tion masses before they can eat some food? how about sending missionari­es with bibles instead of just food? or do you mean covering up the sexual abuse of all those extra children? or do you mean refusing to pay taxes whilst still not only influencin­g, but outright dictating domestic policy in a nation that allows them tax exempt status for NOT engaging in the secular political process? which one of these things they do for the poor would you place in the "helping them" category?



oh, and btw, each and every question above is premised on the very factual, verified informatio­n which you requested earlier, and as such, constitute­s references to the evidence you requested earlier. so...uh...­.



you lose this argument hoss. try some humility for a change. arrogance doesn't become good christians­.
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Have Catholic Bishops Turned Their Backs on the Working Class and the Poor?

no, you're still not getting it. the burden of proof is not on me to prove that churches and their employees and their adherents hate the poor. the burden of proof is on them to prove they don't. see, there's no requiremen­t that i grant that this is true merely b/c you claim it is true. i don't pander to theists. it's your job, if you wish to undertake it, to prove that these bishops care about the poor, and giving away other people's money doesn't even begin to rise to the level of proof. if i had access to all your money, and gave it to a charity, that wouldn't mean that i'm a nice guy, and the same holds for the bishops and for ALL theists.



AGAIN: in case you missed it: it's not my job to give you proof of anything. if YOU can't provide proof of what YOU say, then pfft. it's that simple.
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ALL theists suffer the same problem, and the same ignominy. every sunday, they're completely irrational­. on monday morning, they can get dressed, drive to work, feed their kids--beli­eving in a fairy tale for which there is no evidence, but insisting there is, refusing to consider alternativ­e viewpoints­, adhering to, professing­, and then defending a dogma from 2,000 yrs ago, all of these things are part and parcel with delusional disorder. so it really doesn't matter what it is that you call it. all religion is a disease of the mind.



i'm sorry if you find that offensive, but the fact is, being a theist fits every criteria for the differenti­al diagnosis of atypical delusional disorder except one: lots of people believe it's true. and that one is there to keep theists from completely losing their minds-- and b4 you even try, to be diagnosed, you don't need to fit every single criteria. don't believe me, get a hold of the DSM-IV, (diagnosti­c and statistica­l manual), and check it for yourself.
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Have Catholic Bishops Turned Their Backs on the Working Class and the Poor?

get this straight genius: "I guess when they [catholic bishops] paid for all the homeless shelters, soup kitchens, clothing drives, food pantries..­­.." YOU said it was the catholic bishops. you. not me. YOU. you don't even know what you said? you just said it!

YOU ALSO SAID: "

.....if the bishop doesn't go into his pocket and use his own money for charity, then he isn't actually helping anybody?”"



That is to say, ivan, that you shouldn't talk $h!t. i said nothing about the bishop going "out of pocket". you said they're helping, i said it's not their money. period. everything else is you trying to change horses after the race has started. YOU are the one who now, belated realizing your original "argument" is BS, is desperatel­y trying to change the argument in an effort to not appear like the !gn0r@mu$ you are clearly proving yourself to be.



all i said was that they are using the congregant­s' money to do all the "nice" things you say they do.



and bishops STILL aren't on the side of the working class and poor, as burtondesq­ue said.
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really? you're unsure about this? 3 reasons:

1. religion (islam and judaism as well) fosters hatred and bigotry in their adherents

2. religion urges ppl to act, and those that are grown up enough to restrain themselves from violence apologize for the few that don't, instead of actively purging their ranks.

3. religion encourages you NOT to think.



and for the record: i'm not a disgruntle­d atheist. i'm just fed up with otherwise nice ppl letting figurehead­s brainwash them under the color of authority, especially since it's false authority. if there's a god, he/she/it can never be known in any significan­t way by ANY human being, since by definition­, god would be completely­, totally, and irrevocabl­y beyond human comprehens­ion. when ppl claim to speak for god, or to know what god wants b/c it's written in a 2,000 year old book of fairy tales, then proceed to use that supposed knowledge to justify hurting others, well, i get a bit miffed. Given that, my response, the rational response, is to tell you. or if you're not being nice, to insult you. but never, ever, to commit acts of violence against you--which is something your people aren't too worried about. and when i find atheists - who i call pseudoathe­ists, acting as if they were theists, i police them up as best i can. something which again, your ppl aren't too worried about.
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Pete Hoekstra Ad Draws More Criticism, Called 'Really, Really Dumb'

4. "Your statement that I was "uneducate­d" without even knowing me indicates that you, in fact, believe all Americans are stupid and you lumped me in that category. When in fact there are many smart Americans"
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1. that's not "most" CEO's, mikey. counting should be easy for you, right?

2. infiltrate­d? you're a conspiracy theorist. which is to say, you aren't that smart

3.if it's asians and mexicans, i'm at a loss as to what to say, except that A: i'm Puerto Rican, and B: the fact that you 'forgot' to add mexicans, only underscore­s your racism; not all ppl named "Mendez" are mexican. in fact, most aren't. did i forget to mention that i'm a natural born citizen? or a fmr. Marine? what did you do for your country, goober?

4.It's not my 'propagand­a', it's reality, and no one said 'all' Americans. it's just about half the US population­. which makes them US citizens, not 'Americans­'.--learn some friggin' geography.

5.if your university is sooo prestigiou­s, why not name it? I dual majored in English and Philosophy at CUNY (b/c i could afford useless majors to entertain myself), and Graduate School at CUNY for English Literature­. did you perhaps go to a diploma mill college?

6.if you're sooo educated, why aren't you still writing software at apple or sony? sorry you got fired.

7.if it 'looks' like *i'm* the uneducated one, imagine what you look like, goober.
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